Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

02/21/2006 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:44:38 PM Start
03:45:13 PM HB312
04:54:46 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
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+= HB 312 FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME/EFFECTS PREVENTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 312(HES) Out of Committee
*+ HB 442 HEALTH CARE DECISIONS TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+= HB 271 LIMIT OVERTIME FOR REGISTERED NURSES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ HCR 5 FLUORIDATION TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HB 312-FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME/EFFECTS PREVENTION                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:45:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  312,  "An   Act  relating  to  pregnant  women;                                                               
requiring   hospitals,  schools,   and   alcohol  licensees   and                                                               
permittees to distribute information  about fetal alcohol effects                                                               
and  fetal  alcohol  syndrome; relating  to  the  consumption  of                                                               
alcoholic  beverages by  and  the sale  or  service of  alcoholic                                                               
beverages to  a pregnant woman; requiring  involuntary commitment                                                               
of a  pregnant woman  who has consumed  alcohol; creating  a fund                                                               
for the  prevention and treatment  of fetal alcohol  syndrome and                                                               
fetal alcohol  effects; relating  to fines and  to the  taking of                                                               
permanent  fund  dividends  for   selling  or  serving  alcoholic                                                               
beverages to  pregnant women;  and increasing  taxes on  sales of                                                               
alcoholic beverages  to fund treatment  and education  related to                                                               
fetal alcohol syndrome and fetal alcohol effects."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:45:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JACQUELINE  TUPOU,  Staff   to  Representative  Bruce  Weyhrauch,                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature,  introduced  the committee  substitute                                                               
(CS)  to HB  312, on  behalf  of Representative  Weyhrauch.   She                                                               
pointed out that  the CS includes:  an  education requirement for                                                               
doctors and nurses and provides  for their training; direction to                                                               
the  Department   of  Health  and   Social  Services   (DHSS)  to                                                               
disseminate  Fetal Alcohol  Spectrum Disorder  (FASD) educational                                                               
information  to schools  and hospitals;  and establishes  an FASD                                                               
diagnostic program.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:46:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  moved  to  adopt CSHB  312,  Version  24-                                                               
LS0241\L,  Mischel,  2/21/06, as  the  working  document.   There                                                               
being no objection, Version L was before the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUPOU explained  that Version  L  incorporates the  specific                                                               
requests  and suggestions  received from  the committee  [January                                                               
31, 2006 meeting]  for the bill to include:   continued education                                                               
for doctors and nurses; prenatal  notations from a mother's chart                                                               
to be  attached to  an infant's  record; and  the creation  of an                                                               
FASD program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON requested  that Ms.  Tupou  navigate the  committee                                                               
through the individual changes, for clarification and questions.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUPOU directed the committee  to the first change located on,                                                               
page  2, lines  13-17, which  requires the  "board" to  establish                                                               
standards   for  the   training  of   physicians  and   physician                                                               
assistants  in the  areas of  substance  abuse during  pregnancy,                                                               
FASD,  and  highlights  the  importance  of  record  keeping  and                                                               
history  taking  for  these  conditions.   Page  2,  lines  19-22                                                               
provides   similar   language,   but   it   pertains   to   nurse                                                               
practitioners.   In response  to a  question, she  explained that                                                               
these requirements are to be  established through the appropriate                                                               
governing  boards  for  each   medical  professional  to  receive                                                               
his/her licensure or as a  continuing education requirement.  She                                                               
stressed  that   the  respective   medical  board  is   to  adopt                                                               
appropriate regulation and provide for implementation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked how HB  312 was condensed  from being                                                               
twelve-pages to four pages.  He pointed out the title change.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUPOU replied  that  this bill  has  been reworked  multiple                                                               
times.   She specified that  the items removed from  the original                                                               
bill  were  the  provisions  for:     involuntary  commitment  of                                                               
pregnant  women; penalties  to  the alcohol/hospitality  industry                                                               
for sales/service  to pregnant women; and  FASD testing/screening                                                               
of  newborn infants.   In  regard to  Table 18  provided, in  the                                                               
committee packet,  she explained that  the bottom line  figure of                                                               
$47 million dollars  represents the cost to the state  for the 15                                                               
FASD births identified  in 2003.  She explained  that this recent                                                               
McDowell Group study determined  the lifetime costs of supporting                                                               
an  individual  born  with  FASD.   Assuming  each  will  receive                                                               
appropriate  medical  and  residential  services,  the  cost  per                                                               
individual is estimated to be $3.1 million.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUPOU  continued on to  the changes  for page 3,  lines 5-12,                                                               
which  direct DHSS  to distribute  FASD  educational material  to                                                               
schools  and  hospitals  for  disbursement  to  their  clientele.                                                               
Continuing with  page 3, lines 14-19  define "service providers,"                                                               
and lines  21-25 provide for  the registration  and documentation                                                               
of children with prenatal exposure to alcohol.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:54:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON reminded the committee  that previous discussion [at                                                               
the  January  31,  2006 meeting]  indicated  the  importance  for                                                               
having  the  mother's prenatal  records  to  be attached  to  the                                                               
infant's birth record.  She opined  that the language in the bill                                                               
does not specifically  reflect a requirement for  the marriage of                                                               
these records.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  interjected  that   a  mother  may  have                                                               
confidential information not integral to  the health of the child                                                               
and such  records should  not be subject  to disclosure  that may                                                               
later be discovered by that child.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUPOU agreed  that it  could  present problems  particularly                                                               
with  the Health  Insurance  Portability  and Accountability  Act                                                               
(HIPAA) compliance.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON requested  clarification of the language  on page 3,                                                               
line  24,  regarding "documentation  in  a  medical record  of  a                                                               
diagnosis,"  and inquired  as to  how this  could be  effectively                                                               
executed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUPOU  conceded that  the  language  may need  revising  and                                                               
suggested that a conceptual amendment would be efficacious.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:56:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  offered that perhaps this  issue could be                                                               
addressed by adding language in  the training section of the bill                                                               
to encourage birth attendants to  make a professional note in the                                                               
child's  chart if  they have  any suspicion  that the  infant has                                                               
been  subject  to  prenatal alcohol  exposure  or  other  illegal                                                               
substances.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUPOU pointed  out that language is already  included to that                                                               
effect on page 2, line 15.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  maintained that directive  language could                                                               
be  included to  be more  specific to  the need  and she  offered                                                               
Conceptual  Amendment 1  to Section  1 [to  insert the  following                                                               
language]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The training  program should  include a  provision that                                                                    
     medical  professionals  be  required  to  note  on  the                                                                    
     child's  records any  information they  may have  about                                                                    
     the mother's substance use during pregnancy.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:58:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  objected, pointing out that  being trained                                                               
how to  take information  and making a  judgment call  whether to                                                               
record and document information are  two different scenarios.  He                                                               
emphasized that  if the notation  is not a  specific requirement,                                                               
the  medical provider  may  be hesitant  to  record one  person's                                                               
information onto another person's chart.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:59:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked whether all birth  attendants would                                                               
have access to the appropriate records.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON, drawing  from  her  nursing experience,  explained                                                               
that,  standard chart  information is  a routine  requirement for                                                               
both the mother and the child.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:00:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUPOU pointed  out that Section 7  addresses documentation to                                                               
DHSS  for data  base analysis,  and  may not  be the  appropriate                                                               
place for Conceptual Amendment 1 to be added.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  expressed  a  concern for  the  need  to                                                               
streamline  accessibility to  a  child's  health and  educational                                                               
information, not to  add additional layers of  difficulty for the                                                               
retrieval of such data.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:01:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON   removed  his  objection   to  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   restated  Conceptual  Amendment   1  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
       The mother's substance use or any knowledge of the                                                                       
       mother's substance use is recorded on the child's                                                                        
     record.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON,  upon hearing no further  objection, announced that                                                               
the Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:02:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUPOU  explained  the  revisions   on  page  4,  lines  2-5,                                                               
regarding the distribution of FASD  information by hospitals; and                                                               
lines  9-25,  requiring  DHSS  to establish  a  program  for  the                                                               
diagnosis and  treatment of FASD and  providing specifications to                                                               
that end.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER questioned  whether Section  7 should  be                                                               
retained or deleted from the bill.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:03:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANE CASTO,  Section Manager, Prevention and  Early Intervention                                                               
Section,  Division  of  Behavioral Health  (DBH),  Department  of                                                               
Health  and  Social Services  (DHSS),  clarified  that Section  7                                                               
refers  to the  current Alaska  birth defects  and fetal  alcohol                                                               
syndrome (FAS)  registry.  She  pointed out that  current statute                                                               
requires  health care  providers  to report,  via an  established                                                               
code system, any  prenatal exposure to alcohol; the  data is then                                                               
entered  into  the  registry.    This  is  required  for  defects                                                               
identified at  birth through  six years of  age, and  it includes                                                               
the  documentation of  a child's  potential prenatal  exposure to                                                               
alcohol.   She explained the importance  of this data and  how it                                                               
is used, stating that Alaska leads  in FAS prevalence data.  This                                                               
data  is  critical  when  analyzing   the  effectiveness  of  the                                                               
department's  relevant  programs.     Regarding  the  committee's                                                               
stated concern  for confidentiality, she stressed  that this data                                                               
cannot be  linked to  an individual.   Additionally,  she assured                                                               
the committee  that all  children who are  reported to  the birth                                                               
defects registry also receive a  notation in their record whether                                                               
the mother used alcohol during pregnancy.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER asked  whether a  newborn, who  otherwise                                                               
isn't  identified  for  the  birth  defects  registry,  would  be                                                               
reported to DHSS if the mother  is known to have consumed alcohol                                                               
during pregnancy.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO responded  that if  a notation  has been  made in  the                                                               
child's  record   the  information   will  be  provided   to  the                                                               
department.    She  then  explained   the  effectiveness  of  the                                                               
program.   In  response  to  a question,  she  described how  the                                                               
reporting  code becomes  apparent  through  the billing  process,                                                               
which  is often  when a  referral is  made to  the birth  defects                                                               
registry.   She explained that  the standard of  care established                                                               
by  the  American  College  of  Obstetricians  and  Gynecologists                                                               
(ACOG) is to  screen for alcohol use in all  mothers, and to make                                                               
notations  on both  the  mother's  and the  baby's  record.   She                                                               
expected that  by including language  in the bill  to incorporate                                                               
these standards,  as part of  the ongoing training  and licensure                                                               
requirements, they will  be upheld.  Also, many  mothers who have                                                               
an alcohol issue are transient  and often their birth records are                                                               
lost in the shuffle.  However,  she suspected that by making this                                                               
a stronger  requirement, the importance of  documentation will be                                                               
emphasized making  it "the standard  of care that is  followed by                                                               
everyone."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:11:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO explained  how this  bill builds  on the  department's                                                               
eight  years  of  work  to create  a  foundation  for  education,                                                               
information,  and services  related to  FASD.   She directed  the                                                               
committee's attention  to Section  10, which relates  to programs                                                               
and obtaining an early diagnosis.   She stressed that a diagnosis                                                               
is necessary  for a  child to  receive appropriate  services, and                                                               
stated that there are many  undiagnosed adolescents and adults in                                                               
Alaska's  correctional facilities.   The  FASD training  measures                                                               
provided in  Section 10  allow for a  "fairly concise  and doable                                                               
process," she opined.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:14:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   reported  a  constituent   proposal  to                                                               
establish  a  statewide  FAS/FASD council,  with  seated  members                                                               
representing a  variety of disciplines  that would  hold regional                                                               
meetings and regular public forums.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO  said that  a  council  has  been discussed,  but  the                                                               
department has  determined that the current  statewide committees                                                               
for  suicide prevention,  alcohol/drug abuse,  and mental  health                                                               
issues  can  elevate  the  importance   of  the  FASD  issue  and                                                               
incorporate its focus  as part of their duties.   She pointed out                                                               
that a  one-time federal  grant did provide  funding for  an FASD                                                               
steering committee, which was a benefit.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:16:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON moved  to  adopt  Conceptual Amendment  2,                                                               
which  read   [original  punctuation  provided   and  handwritten                                                               
changes incorporated]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, following line 22, add [a] new section:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     (6)  provision  of  long duration  contraception  on  a                                                                    
     voluntary  basis   to  clients  of   Community  medical                                                                    
     clinics,   [identified  by]   community  metal   health                                                                    
     clinics  and public  health  nurses  who are  diagnosed                                                                    
     with FASD.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON objected for discussion.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  expressed his concern  that HB 312  has an                                                               
"after the fact" focus, and  this amendment provides preventative                                                               
measures for  individuals who otherwise would  have difficulty in                                                               
managing/planning a healthy pregnancy.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  stressed that contraception would  be on a                                                               
voluntary basis, and  be a "long-term" approach  to birth control                                                               
versus daily administration methods.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER asked  for clarification  on exactly  who                                                               
would benefit from  this amendment, pointing out that  if an FASD                                                               
diagnosis  is required,  a portion  of  the target  group may  be                                                               
missed.   She  suggested that  perhaps other  voluntary substance                                                               
abusers should be qualified for the benefit.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON, realizing  that this amendment would  have a fiscal                                                               
note attached, asked if the sponsor wished to make a comment.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:21:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUPOU agreed  with the amendment, but conceded  that it would                                                               
be difficult  to estimate the cost  of including it in  the bill;                                                               
and  thus   she  opined  that   it's  difficult  to   provide  an                                                               
appropriate comment.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  suggested  that  it  be  called  the  $3.1                                                               
million fiscal note [as per the Table 18 statistics].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:21:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  pointed out that anyone  who has obtained                                                               
an FASD  diagnosis would be considered  developmentally disabled,                                                               
thus  eligible  for  birth  control  measures  through  Medicaid,                                                               
Medicare,  and the  Alaska  Native Medical  Center  (ANMC).   She                                                               
again questioned whom this amendment would benefit.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:22:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUPOU offered  that there  is an  indeterminate fiscal  note                                                               
being  prepared, which  will attach  to the  bill for  subsequent                                                               
committee review.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO  conceded  that  the  area  of  prevention  does  need                                                               
attention, and  agreed that birth control  measures are available                                                               
through the  various public health  centers mentioned.   However,                                                               
the  women  who  may  need  it most  may  not  be  utilizing  the                                                               
services.  She described a  federal grant project which partnered                                                               
the  Anchorage  Neighborhood  Health  Center  with  the  Highland                                                               
Mountain  Correctional Center,  and related  the success  of that                                                               
type  of project  in providing  birth control  to at-risk  women.                                                               
She  related her  support of  Conceptual Amendment  2 as  a clear                                                               
statement  of  focus  towards  prevention  of  FASD  births,  but                                                               
expressed the need  to ensure that the  appropriate populace will                                                               
be  reached.   Further,  she suggested  the  partnering of  state                                                               
health  agencies with  state treatment  facilities to  facilitate                                                               
appropriate contraception.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:26:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  inquired about the role  a father's alcohol                                                               
consumption plays in contributing to FASD.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO explained  that research  indicates how  male drinking                                                               
contributes to other prenatal and  postnatal difficulties but not                                                               
FASD.   However,  studies do  indicate  the critical  need for  a                                                               
pregnant woman to  have a non-drinking partner to  support her in                                                               
not drinking during pregnancy.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:28:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON withdrew her objection to the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:28:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  proposed   Amendment  1   to  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2  [which would insert  the following text  after FASD]                                                               
to add:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     "or are associated with alcohol abuse."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  suggested  that funding  problems  could                                                               
arise if free  birth control measures were made  available to any                                                               
woman who proclaims that she is a substance abuser.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON maintained  that high-risk  behavior could                                                               
be targeted with this language.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  TUPOU said  that  it would  be a  good  approach to  include                                                               
language for  a proactive  program policy  of referring  women to                                                               
the  appropriate services  for birth  control.   She opined  that                                                               
including  such a  measure would  not  be implicit  on the  state                                                               
providing free birth control.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:31:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  maintained that  without the  fiscal note,                                                               
the  purpose will  not  be served  nor will  the  number of  FASD                                                               
births be  curbed.  He  pointed out  the $3.1 dollar  savings per                                                               
birth will  offset the  fiscal note for  the cost  of proactively                                                               
providing birth control.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  moved to  adopt Amendment 1  to Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2 [text provided previously].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:32:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked  for clarification as to  what type of                                                               
birth control is covered.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON explained  that it  would cover  any type  of birth                                                               
control that did not require daily administration.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:33:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that hearing  no objection, Amendment 1 to                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 2  was adopted.  Further  she announced that                                                               
hearing  no  objection, Conceptual  Amendment  2  as amended  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:34:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL  SCOTT,   Manager,  Parent  Support  Grant,   Division  of                                                               
Behavioral Health (DBH), Stone Soup  Group, stated support for HB
312.  She  pointed out that non-Native mothers are  not served in                                                               
the Anchorage area  due to the lack of programs,  which skews the                                                               
statistics inaccurately  to demonstrate  FASD as a  Native issue.                                                               
She  stressed the  need for  services  to be  established to  aid                                                               
every  ethnic group.   Responding  to a  question, she  explained                                                               
that  Providence  Health  Care Foundation  (Providence)  received                                                               
funding to  train a diagnostic  team for the Anchorage  area that                                                               
could  evaluate non-Native  children;  however, after  performing                                                               
three  diagnosis, the  Providence administration  decided not  to                                                               
continue this program and the  team was terminated.  Further, she                                                               
stressed  the difficulty  in  capturing  accurate information  on                                                               
ethnic  backgrounds outside  of  Alaskan Natives.   She  reported                                                               
that this  is not the situation  in Fairbanks, where the  team is                                                               
able  to diagnose  across the  full spectrum  of the  population.                                                               
Furthermore,  the Fairbanks  teams  are expecting  to expand  and                                                               
also provide diagnostic services for specific age groups.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:42:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL BALDWIN, Mental Health  Clinician, Fetal Alcohol Spectrum                                                               
Disorders (FASD),  MatSu Diagnostic  Team, stated support  for HB
312 and the changes that have been provided in Version L.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:45:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANNE MACCRAE stated  support for HB 312, stressing  the need to                                                               
attach the  mother's birth records  to the child's.   She related                                                               
her experiences  as an adoptive mother  of an FASD child  and the                                                               
benefits   she  realized   by   having   the  prenatal   exposure                                                               
information and receiving an early diagnosis.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICK  IANNLINO,  Coordinator,  Fetal Alcohol  Spectrum  Disorders                                                               
(FASD), Juneau Diagnostic Clinic,  Central Council Tlingit Indian                                                               
Tribe,  stated  support  for  HB  312,  and  commented  that  the                                                               
currently  available  FAS  101   and  201  training  classes  are                                                               
excellent, but many health care  providers are not attending.  He                                                               
suggested that an attendance incentive  might prove helpful, and,                                                               
as  a follow  up  to training,  technical  modeling and  coaching                                                               
assistance would  be beneficial.   Responding  to a  question, he                                                               
said  that  anyone  providing  health   care  who  has  not  been                                                               
specifically trained in the issues  of FASD may relay information                                                               
that  is  skewed  and  detrimental.   He  described  FASD  as  an                                                               
"invisible" disability, unlike someone  who has a visibly evident                                                               
disability.   No one would ask  an armless person to  use the arm                                                               
that  he/she doesn't  have, but  with FASD  people are  routinely                                                               
asked to utilize a facet of  their mind that does not function in                                                               
a normal capacity, he said.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:50:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  ROREM,  Pastor, Shepard  of  the  Valley Lutheran  Church,                                                               
provided examples of parenting an  FASD adult.  He also expressed                                                               
concerns  regarding  service  providers  who  are  not  adept  in                                                               
dealing with FASD clients, and  stressed the need for appropriate                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:53:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  moved to  report  CSHB  312, Version  24-                                                               
LS0241\L,  Mischel, 2/21/06,  as amended,  out of  committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being no  objection, CSHB 312(HES) was reported  out of the                                                               
House Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                 

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